I'm swapping in a 5600 in my 08 megacab that had a g56, and really hoping I can use the stock length rear driveshaft.. TIA! Make sure this fits by entering your model number. You'll understand once you look at the internals. Any of them will interchange with a dodge transmission after you swap in the correct input shaft. Well, need to know what trans to go with behind my p-pump 24v. I do believe the bearings are better in the 6.0/6.4 zf6 and maybe a few more upgrades, but I thinking recall them saying you can upgrade the 7.3 zf6 with the … Zf-6 the shift pattern is well thought out. His experience has been that the NV is a overall stronger transmission requiring fewer repairs. are the zf6's better because u can upgrade them? What is the length difference between a 4wd g56 and nv5600? Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together, Send a private message to powerchoke-eatr, If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the. The ZF6 bellhousing from 99-03 and 04-09 are different btw. From what I can tell, they're stronger and shift quicker then anything Dodge has. I’ve thought about going that route with my 96. It's a nice unit but keep the oil in both units from overheating and full of oil (stock nv5600's had both of these issues working against it) and towing hard I would put my money on the massive NV5600 any day. I miss my old 4bt powered chief Let me know what you think. My pick for easy driveability,quick shifting and lightweight would be the ZF 6. I think a nv5600 with custom builit shafts and custom cut billit gears would hold 800hp reliably. just step up to a medium duty 6speed like they run in the f800's. Which is stronger will start a debate as there are people on both sides of the fence. I'd ditch the nv4500 if I could find the zf for a reasonable price. Well, need to know what trans to go with behind my p-pump 24v. The NV4500 is good, but the ZF6 is great. zf5 vs nv4500. The NV5600, however, is a brute that appears … I like the zf shift pattern cuz i drive eatons all day. I'll be doing a 5600 swap too, would do the zf6 if the shifter was a … My supposed bulletproof 4L60E has failed for the fourth time and frankly im just sick of havin an auto in my truck behind my built 383. I agree its a pain to work on and much heavier but in my opinion it's the best unit ever put into a 1 ton for heavy towing. Thanks. Look at the ratio numbers I was givin there, they are different for the close ratio than what you gave me (yours are higher). I dont plan on going north of 350 to 400hp so i should be good. I myself prefer the shift pattern of the zf6, but want to hear pros and cons of each! In the past, we have only had available the Getrag 360 and the NV4500. I'll be doing a 5600 swap too, would do the zf6 if the shifter was a … Well I might be buying a 5600 today, so now I just need to choose between the NV 5600 and the NV 4500... 5600 for towing, the gears are spaced much nicer, The 5600 has a 1 3/8" input already if its from an 01 or newer. [quote author=Robert link=board=5;threadid=10656;start=0#78645 date=1036015447]
I am considering making the same choice - ZF vs NV 4500.
Today, 10/30, I talked to my nephew who has been in the mechanic repair business for 15 years. The corvettes and camaros used a t56, and I think they still do. Well one thing to consider, dont know if you know or not but the ZF has to have a tranny cooler and lines ran. ZF5 VS ZF6 Discussion in 'Diesel Conversion Forum' started by Classicfordguy, May 27, 2009. I'm going to be running an Eation FS5205A that came out of a box truck in mine... there is a guy on CF that swapped his NV5600 for a Eaton Fuller 6sp that he converted to OD and it has basically the same gear ratios as the 5600.. which is cool they sure seem to last longer and keep from smoking internals up or as bad anyways.. Nothin like a split. Hello all i'm new (obviously) and not really sure if i'm posting in the right area. L. lb72500duramax New member. Normally sold in pairs, this is one cooler for one side. (not the truck) I bet a 3500HD would be easier to squeeze one in, but then the issue of getting the parking brake to work comes into play, as HDs have a transmission mounted parking brake. Ford has a 271,272, and 273 transfer case. IMHO the nv5600 is alot more refined but the zf is not a horrible design. but you would have to know someone that can make that stuff for you. This transmission is a fully synchronized unit with all brass synchronizer rings in all gears. Classicfordguy ... First off, the gutbag and NV4500 are entirely different animals than the Ford diesel transmissions or the NV5600/G56. Get in the truck, start it up and flip on the right blinker and hit the gas. Fits: GM and Dodge NV4500 NV5600 G56 Ford ZF 5 ZF6 Transmissions. the only driving experience I have with them is the ford version, and I loved the tranny. Transmission Aluminum Pto Fast Cooler Manual Trans NV4500, NV5600, G56 and ZF . If you're gonna tow heavy with massive torque my advice is hands down go with the NV5600 but I would HIGHLY recommend adding aluminum cooling covers on the side along with slightly overfilling the case with 50 weight synthetic gear oil. 2016 2500 G56 Laramie Crew Cab 1996 2500 NV4500 SLT Regular Cab (purchased new) Save Share. Would suck to get in and think im in reverse when im actually in 1st. ZF6 Transmission. Ford really helped it out by adding coolers when they started putting them in trucks but GM chose a different approach by running a synthetic fluid designed to take more heat.They also added a bushing, lengthened the shifter throw,and a more angled helical cut on the gears to quite them down and improve the shift "feel". I didn't know that about the 5 speed vs 6 speed gear ratios. Brody Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. Although I … What is the length difference between a 4wd g56 and nv5600? I actually just bought a HO NV5600 the other day for a decent price. If you're gonna tow heavy with massive torque my advice is hands down go with the NV5600 but I would HIGHLY recommend adding aluminum cooling covers on the side along with slightly overfilling the case with 50 weight synthetic gear oil. It has the lowest reverse yet of automatics, so if you are backing heavy trailers up hills you may find that part of this trans very beneficial. And the ZF6 was the 6 speed manual used behind teh DMAX, only the 01-05 CUMMINS had the option of the NV5600, and even then not all manuals were the NV5600 as you could get the NV4500 up to early 03. They are all the same except the 273's are electric, the 72' may be electric but I cant remember. My pick for easy driveability,quick shifting and lightweight would be the ZF 6. Note: Metric Mounting bolt kit not included For G56 6 Speed However you will get a see standard bolt kit as pictured. Both 5 speed transmissions that had their own little idiosyncrasies. I've been trying to find a zf6 for mine. zf6 or nv5600? Just curious for my own knowledge - what’s the advantage of swapping to a zf6 or nv5600 vs going with a gear vendors overdrive? I would've posted in the introduction section but i really need answers and it didn't seem like as many people were viewing it. I thought it was like the gasser t5 vs t56. The NV4500 5th gear ratio is.73 The ZF-6 6th gear ratio is.72 The NV4500 could/would be a direct drop in. 1) ZF6, ie the Ford manual transmission in pre 2011 Superduties. This transmission is a fully synchronized unit with all brass synchronizer rings in all gears. The t56 is like a strong t5 with another overdrive. 4 Pto Gasket And Mounting Bolt . Well, need to know what trans to go with behind my p-pump 24v. A single Fast Coolers fit all SAE 6 bolt PTO access covers. May 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM #1. The NV5600 6-speed brings a new meaning to the term "light duty". The NV5600 transmissions were used by Dodge in Ram diesel series pickup trucks starting in 1998 The NV5600 is an end loaded cast iron case and aluminum removable bell section 6 speed transmission. GM and Dodge NV4500 NV5600 G56 Ford ZF 5 ZF6 Transmissions Our Price: $172.12 (12) NV5600 2nd Gear 39T 05019906AB, NV22770 NV5600 2nd Gear 39T, 05019906AB, NV22770 2000-up Dodge Ram 2500 3500 3/4 and 1 Ton Trucks with Cummins Diesel Engine Our Price: $139.50 (28) Free Shipping Lower 48 Mine 5 speed has got 4.10 gears (not my favorite) so you spend all day shifting as it is. The ZF6 used in the corvette was model numberZF S6-40. I AM ONE OF MANY WHOM WASHINGTON HAS CHOSEN TO IGNORE OR FORGET But i Vote GO UM Montana Griz "Jeep Lurker" KEEP REMEMBERING 9/11 Jeep with Rambler motor, SUA, front 608.9 and some bolt on stuff. The t56 is like a strong t5 with another overdrive. Reply. U said u was going to use a 271 t-case. There are adapter plates made to bolt a ZF-6 up to a Cummins, but it runs around $800 for the plate adapter. May 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM #1. I tow occasionally and I take it off road a lot through rocks or what ever I can clear, or maybe at some point sled pulling. In the past, we have only … I think a nv5600 with custom builit shafts and custom cut billit gears would hold 800hp reliably. zf6 or nv5600? I have been doing alot of research on the NV4500 swap and following a couple members on the GMFS that sucessfully did it. Ive had great service out of my 3 trucks with 5600's, just 1 broken mainshaft. The NV5600 6-speed brings a new meaning to the term "light duty". Jul 20, 2014 2 0 0. Replaced alot of 3rd and 5th gears in 4500's. a stock nv5600 with a big input will hold over 500 pretty easly but dont excpect to be doing power shifts or drag racing with it, sled pulling it should last at over 500 no problem but shifting uder power im sure it will bust. Custom regulated return, zoodad mod, S&B intake. I didn't know that about the 5 speed vs 6 speed gear ratios. Would be sweet! Duramax 6.6 Technical. Was u thinking of putting a ZF6 out of a Chevy. Why don't you run an Eaton behind it? use direct. I thought it was like the gasser t5 vs t56. I'm swapping in a 5600 in my 08 megacab that had a g56, and really hoping I can use the stock length rear driveshaft.. TIA! Seeing as people put the 3rd Gen tcases into 2nd gens no problem. What all do u have to do to put a ZF6 were a NV4500 has been? Thx. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. 2) 6R140, ie the Ford automatic transmission used in post 2010 Superduteies. Other options are the Dodge NV5600 or G56. I think Im going to go with the 5600, and sell the 4500.. still not 100% sure, but I think thats the route I might take. I thought u wanted one that came out of a 6.0 Ford, but i thought u had to use like a 273 t-case to one of thoses. Classicfordguy ... First off, the gutbag and NV4500 are entirely different animals than the Ford diesel transmissions or the NV5600/G56. The NV4500 and gutbag are wide ratio granny transmissions. L. lb72500duramax New member. Replacement parts is something to think of as well. Recap of removal, Part 1 83GMCK2500 I can say for certain the 4500 is cheaper to repair and easier to work on. I myself prefer the shift pattern of the zf6, but want to hear pros and cons of each! I just need to find out if there are any differences between the Chevy and Ford zf's. Hey ryanp, if you get a chance will you go look at my post in 7.3 engine and drivetrain forum called "ZF5 vs. ZF6" it might be on like page 3 or so. I use my truck for daily driving everyday with most my miles being city. ZF6 Transmission. I have been debating on an eaton rt6610. NV5600 & ZF S6-650 S6-750 TRANSMISSION REAR MAIN SHAFT BEARING FITS FORD CHEVY GMC DODGE '99+ (6309-N) I personally prefer the Ford ZF6 6 speed manual tranny. Over fill the NV5600 with 3/4-1 qt of fluid don't lug the tranny (any tranny with a diesel) when towing in OD on grades. LB7: Allison to zf6/ nv5600 conversion Thread starter lb72500duramax; Start date Jul 21, 2014; Forums. I am hoping that both of these transmissions will handle the power of the 6.7 without any modifications. 2 Pto Cooler. In a Ford the floor will need to be modified. Mine 5 speed has got 4.10 gears (not my favorite) so you spend all day shifting as it is. The NV4500 and gutbag are wide ratio granny transmissions. LB7: Allison to zf6/ nv5600 conversion Thread starter lb72500duramax; Start date Jul 21, 2014; Forums. Clutch wise I think you have to use a different one. Its eve worse when i get in my truck after driving the backhoe all day. 5.0 out of 5 stars 1 rating. I really dont see a downside to it. I thought the Chevy tranys wasnt all that stought. The truck model number is ZF S6-650. Available from these sellers. This fits your . So I originally had a 47RE, and I bought a NV4500. a stock nv5600 with a big input will hold over 500 pretty easly but dont excpect to be doing power shifts or drag racing with it, sled pulling it should last at over 500 no problem but shifting uder power im sure it will bust. The ZF 6 is the same unit chevy used in corvettes 20 years ago. Nothing is quite as exciting as bare-backing a ginger crack wh0re that is famous. NV4500, NV5600, Zf5, Zf6 single cooler Brand: Fast Coolers. So now I own both the 4500 and 5600. Id put both trannys the G56 and nv5600 in about the same ball park, the nv5600 imho has a few advantages but thats a different discussion. but you would have to know someone that can make that stuff for you. i always thought the zf6 was a stronger trans than the nv anyway. My plan was to buy the Billet 1-3/8 Input Shaft, a Valair or Southbend double disk clutch, and bolt a NV271 T-Case to it. Early '99, 7.3/4R to Cummins 6.7/ZF6 CONVERSION, AIR LOCKERS, 4:11, 35", '05 HARLEY FRONT , TRAIL READY W/WARN. Stay away from the NV4500 if you can. I myself prefer the shift pattern of the zf6, but want to hear pros and cons of each! The NV5600 transmissions were used by Dodge in Ram diesel series pickup trucks starting in 1998 The NV5600 is an end loaded cast iron case and aluminum removable bell section 6 speed transmission. The Allison ® 1000 5 and 6 speed transmissions have been regarded as excellent transmissions since they first made their appearance in the Chevy pickups in 2001. NV5600 "New Venture Gear" 6 speed transmission rebuild. Duramax 6.6 Technical. Jul 20, 2014 2 0 0. Kit Includes. ZF5 VS ZF6 Discussion in 'Diesel Conversion Forum' started by Classicfordguy, May 27, 2009. They are a super tough transmission. 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